I have a KWM-2 that the RCA plug ,next to the ALC plug, on the top row=20= of=20 RCA plugs, on the back right row of RCA plugs, is marked EXT MUTE.

From all the other KWM-2's that I have seen, and from my manual, that R= CA=20 plug should be a spare and marked as such.

I have not looked at it from the inside to see if it is being used= or=20 connected to anything but I am going to need the plug as a spare t= o=20 connect an SB-620.

Anyone know anything about that RCA plug being marked as EXT. MUTE= =20 instead of spare?

It seems to be a factory marking.

Do I have a rare bird?

Thanks in advance,

Dan/N4VET

Who's never= won? Biggest Gra= mmy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.

-------------------------------1202102503-- . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From all the other KWM-2's that I have seen, and from my manual, that RCA plug should be a spare and marked as such. I have not looked at it from the inside to see if it is being used or connected to anything but I am going to need the plug as a spare to connect an SB-620. Anyone know anything about that RCA plug being marked as EXT. MUTE instead of spare? It seems to be a factory marking. Do I have a rare bird? Thanks in advance, Dan/N4VET **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002 5 48) . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From all the other KWM-2's that I have seen, and from my manual, that RCA plug should be a spare and marked as such. I have not looked at it from the inside to see if it is being used or connected to anything but I am going to need the plug as a spare to connect an SB-620. Anyone know anything about that RCA plug being marked as EXT. MUTE instead of spare? It seems to be a factory marking. Do I have a rare bird? Thanks in advance, Dan/N4VET ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C86703.0CB6D290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

S/N 13797 is out of the case in = front of me. That RCA jack is = marked SPARE on this one.

The manual, 4^th = Edition, 1 April 1964, I randomly pulled from my file cabinet shows it as SPARE on the = schematic as well.

Ian, = K6SDE

From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com [mailto:collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com] On Behalf Of OTAKEBI@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February = 03, 2008 9:22 PM
To: = collins@listserve.com
Subject: {Collins} KWM-2 = Question

I have a KWM-2 that the RCA plug = ,next to the ALC plug, on the top row of RCA plugs, on the back right row of RCA plugs, is marked EXT MUTE.

From all the other KWM-2's that I = have seen, and from my manual, that RCA plug should be a spare and marked as = such.

I have not looked at it from the inside to see if it is being used or connected = to anything but I am going to need the plug as a spare to connect an = SB-620.

Anyone know anything about that RCA plug being marked as EXT. MUTE instead of = spare?

It seems to be a factory = marking.

Do I have a rare = bird?

Thanks in = advance,

Dan/N4VET<= /p>

------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C86703.0CB6D290-- . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From boatanchors@theporch.com Tue Dec 12 20:56:00 1995 From: EKnobloch@aol.com Subject: Waters Channelator for Collins KWM-2 Message-ID: <951212145242_131427203@mail04.mail.aol.com> I picked up a Waters Model 349 "Channelator," which is an adapter for the KWM-2, allowing crystal control of either transmit, receive, or both transmit and receive frequencies. It is a neat looking accessory, with styling to complement the Collins gear. I don't have a manual for it. I found that the unit I have had never worked: it was miswired at the factory. The only time d.c. was applied to the crystal oscillator was when the slide switch on the back was set to "spot". Also, my unit has a 6BH6 tube installed, whereas the review in June 1964 CQ shows a 6AU6. I was unable to get any data from B+W, which took over the Waters line. Can anyone help? Also, Waters made an adapter for this unit which allowed crystal control of the S/Line transmitter and receiver. Does this info exist anywhere in Anchor-land? Thanks Ed K4PF EKnobloch@aol.com QRZ says: K4PF USA Lookups: 388 EDWARD J KNOBLOCH 32 RIVERVIEW AVE TARRYTOWN NY 10591 A Google produced: "k4pf@juno.com" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 He's posted on Boatanchors within the last month or two which appears with a Google search specifying +2008. He might have further information gathered since 1995. Ian, K6SDE -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com [mailto:collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com] On Behalf Of Chris Meyer Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:41 PM To: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM Subject: {Collins} Waters Model 349 Channelator Anyone know what this is? Novice adapter or additional freq. capacity for kwm-2? . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From k4hca@alltel.net Tue Apr 1 07:13:28 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net (ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.157]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3206CCEB1E for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Harold ([75.117.17.90]) by ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20080401111052.SIJV20033.ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net@Harold>; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c893e9$0bc56cd0$01fea8c0@Harold> From: "Harold Hairston" To: "Collins ListServ" , "Boat Anchors List" Subject: {Collins} Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:10:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net from [75.117.17.90] using ID k4hca@alltel.net at Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:10:52 -0500 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: E3206CCEB1E.CEDF4 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: k4hca@alltel.net X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27397 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: k4hca@alltel.net Precedence: list Reply-to: k4hca@alltel.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several weeks ago, we were discussing a solution for the 6BF5 Heat = Problem in S-Line equipment. One of the solutions offered was a Solid = State replacement sold by one Don Kang. The E-mail address offered for = Don was donkang@ieee.org. I have not had any success reaching Don at = this address. Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, KC6OWH, in Los Angeles = but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to contact this person or = have a valid E-mail address. '73, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Several weeks ago, we were discussing a solution for = the 6BF5=20 Heat Problem in S-Line equipment. One of the solutions offered was = a Solid=20 State replacement sold by one Don Kang. The E-mail address offered for = Don was=20 donkang@ieee.org. I have not had = any=20 success reaching Don at this address.

Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, = KC6OWH,=20 in Los Angeles but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to = contact this=20 person or have a valid E-mail address.

'73,

Harold

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0-- . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From bkemp@bobkemp.com Tue Apr 1 07:29:29 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from smtpauth21.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (pop21.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.38]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AE842CCEAAD for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12302 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2008 11:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (12.215.131.207) by smtpauth21.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.38) with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2008 11:27:10 -0000 Message-ID: <47F229F6.1070908@bobkemp.com> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:26:30 -0600 From: Bob Kemp Organization: Kemp Insurance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: k4hca@alltel.net CC: Collins ListServ , Boat Anchors List Subject: {Collins} Re: Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line References: <000601c893e9$0bc56cd0$01fea8c0@Harold> In-Reply-To: <000601c893e9$0bc56cd0$01fea8c0@Harold> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: AE842CCEAAD.98A77 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: bkemp@bobkemp.com X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27398 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: bkemp@bobkemp.com Precedence: list Reply-to: bkemp@bobkemp.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins Harold: Here's another individual offering T-tubes. Might try him also. I think Don moved to Vegas (trying to recollect the thread...) but he's still around and will make the audio amp tube. http://www.w6bn.com/ttubes.asp Bob wa0vrc Harold Hairston wrote: > Several weeks ago, we were discussing a solution for the 6BF5 Heat > Problem in S-Line equipment. One of the solutions offered was a Solid > State replacement sold by one Don Kang. The E-mail address offered for > Don was donkang@ieee.org . I have not had any > success reaching Don at this address. > > Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, KC6OWH, in Los Angeles > but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to contact this person or > have a valid E-mail address. > > '73, > > Harold . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . 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How about cannibalized and parts sold? > Any informed opinions? Hi Paul - I don't know that I'd go so far as to consider mine an 'informed opinion', merely speaking from personal experience. AF MARS seemed to have a good supply of Collins FRC-93 type stuff still available back in the 90s. I was in Army MARS and recall only getting offers of 8088 junk computers and crap like that. The only good stuff I recall was passed on by other members, obtained during the Golden Days of the MARS surplus program. As far as accountability, it used to be set up to be held for....3-5 years, then dropped from the accountability roster. After all, the intent was to get rid of the stuff. But you had to remain active during that period, otherwise all the equipment had to be turned back in (generally not pursued, though). Sometime within (I *think*) the last 10 or so years, the rules changed to keep everything issued as accountable until you left the program, at which time it must be turned back in. I had dropped out of the program due to lack of activity (on both sides) as well as the lax leadership in my area that had allowed some real nitwits into the program for the sake of numbers. When I left, the new rule was not yet in force as I recall. The only gear I ever got was a relatively decent R-390 passed on to me by an OT. Later the RF deck for a T-368 came my way that was probably from the program, but was obtained privately. A buddy was the state screener back in the 60s and has great stories about hauling 18-wheelers full of gear back home for the members, and filling the field behind his home with everything from generators to teletype machines, and members coming to pick up gear with dump trucks and so on. Those must've been the halcyon days of the MARS program. Hopefully someone who is still active and has first-hand knowledge can give more details. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From johnpainter@verizon.net Tue Apr 1 10:42:23 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: COLLINS@listserve.com Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD05ACCE5B3 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ALTAIROFFICE ([71.113.209.153]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JYN00339I34T490@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for COLLINS@listserve.com; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:40:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:38:21 -0500 From: "John Painter" Subject: {Collins} Re: MARS Equipment To: , Cc: Message-id: <003f01c89406$0a283160$2f01a8c0@ALTAIROFFICE> Organization: ALTAIR MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000e01c89372$e73ae2d0$640aa8c0@ENGR2> <9ccb8c510804010610g57baf575w7a9fba35abc52771@mail.gmail.com> X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: DD05ACCE5B3.24342 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: johnpainter@verizon.net X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27400 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: johnpainter@verizon.net Precedence: list Reply-to: johnpainter@verizon.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins Speaking of "the Golden Days of the MARS surplus program," in 1956, I held the MARS call, AF9VKE, while on active duty in the Air Force. One day, I walked into the MARS station at Wright-Patterson AFB (Dayton) and asked what they had for sign-out. I was taken into the large warehouse behind the station, just filled with goodies. I came out with one of the old WW-2 command sets, which I gutted and rebuilt as a 40-meter CW transmitter. It was a keyed oscillator, using a pair of 117L7s in push-pull. Worked like a charm. Still have the log of contacts made that summer on 40-CW. Can't remember what ever happened to that rig. Wish I still had it. Can't do that any more, I guess. John Painter W5LQS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: {Collins} Re: MARS Equipment On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Paul Kraemer wrote: > An earlier thread about some S-line equipment for sale which had the 30S-1 > pulled from the list because it had possibly been obtained through AF MARS > program brings up a couple good points: > (1) I was obviously associated with the wrong branch of MARS. > (2) What is one supposed to do with the stuff if it can't be sold or given > away? How about cannibalized and parts sold? > Any informed opinions? Hi Paul - I don't know that I'd go so far as to consider mine an 'informed opinion', merely speaking from personal experience. AF MARS seemed to have a good supply of Collins FRC-93 type stuff still available back in the 90s. I was in Army MARS and recall only getting offers of 8088 junk computers and crap like that. The only good stuff I recall was passed on by other members, obtained during the Golden Days of the MARS surplus program. As far as accountability, it used to be set up to be held for....3-5 years, then dropped from the accountability roster. After all, the intent was to get rid of the stuff. But you had to remain active during that period, otherwise all the equipment had to be turned back in (generally not pursued, though). Sometime within (I *think*) the last 10 or so years, the rules changed to keep everything issued as accountable until you left the program, at which time it must be turned back in. I had dropped out of the program due to lack of activity (on both sides) as well as the lax leadership in my area that had allowed some real nitwits into the program for the sake of numbers. When I left, the new rule was not yet in force as I recall. The only gear I ever got was a relatively decent R-390 passed on to me by an OT. Later the RF deck for a T-368 came my way that was probably from the program, but was obtained privately. A buddy was the state screener back in the 60s and has great stories about hauling 18-wheelers full of gear back home for the members, and filling the field behind his home with everything from generators to teletype machines, and members coming to pick up gear with dump trucks and so on. Those must've been the halcyon days of the MARS program. Hopefully someone who is still active and has first-hand knowledge can give more details. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From ianwebb5@comcast.net Tue Apr 1 10:52:22 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: collins@listserve.com Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B94CCE448 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8CTa1Z00316LCl05409H00; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:48:38 +0000 Received: from 8300BEDROOM ([24.6.182.221]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8Eq21Z00H4n0oHU3S00000; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:50:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IK9KtcrydBEA:10 a=ApZX57bqAAAA:8 a=6nNo_WMxAAAA:8 a=plOtrzx6AAAA:8 a=lPcXxU_3ZHEj0_copC8A:9 a=hZs281h28LZpE9ea-t4A:7 a=LTRCslgxZ86fi-3d88Z1-KMX-bwA:4 a=OHD_LnfE-60A:10 a=qq_vuDsrUNQA:10 a=dQF4iKht2TkA:10 a=zRsRl4RmxL0A:10 a=_KtGf5bnNxAA:10 a=ZrMMMnaxNC4A:10 a=kxZNdVYaC-IA:10 a=RyINfOe8yMEA:10 a=2uiCRmbCp6AA:10 From: "Ian" To: , Cc: "'Collins ListServ'" , "'Boat Anchors List'" References: <000601c893e9$0bc56cd0$01fea8c0@Harold> <47F229F6.1070908@bobkemp.com> Subject: {Collins} Re: Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:50:01 -0700 Message-ID: <008b01c89407$aaa60cb0$6400a8c0@8300BEDROOM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <47F229F6.1070908@bobkemp.com> Thread-Index: AciT6+nZ670Npo0CRXi/Zhi+YFkUFgAGK5sg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 05B94CCE448.BD8E5 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: ianwebb5@comcast.net X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27401 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: ianwebb5@comcast.net Precedence: list Reply-to: ianwebb5@comcast.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins Harold, As far as I know Don is NOT licensed. When I was at his house several years ago he had only a 51S-1 but apparently has others now. His main area of interest was audio and he had built several very beautiful vacuum tube amplifiers that I believe he made for others on special order. He lives on the hillside near the top of the Coastal Range with a Saratoga, CA mailing address. I can actually see his house from my front yard down in the flatlands. It's a big house painted white and somebody once told me that local pilots call it the "Saratoga Beacon" since it's so easy to spot from the air. I've not been in contact nor seen him for several years and he isn't in the local phone book though there are a couple of columns of small type of Kongs so it may be buried under a different first name. I don't find a likely phone number searching there. I used to have a phone number for him. At one time this was a valid e-mail address, as was the ieee one that you already have. don@kdk.cncdsl.com You can see if you get a response there. Here's a link to an article of his. It also has the ieee e-mail address. LAST MINUTE THOUGHT: I just did a Google search on his name and this is what I found: PowerPulse.Net, Updated every business day Saratoga, , CA 95070 United States. Phone: (408) 741-1347 FAX: (408) 741-1015 Toll-Free: Sales Contact: Don Kang Sales Email: jimmy@kdk.cncdsl.com ... Map of 15520 On Orbit Dr, Saratoga, CA 95070 www.powerpulse.net/mfgr_display.php?mfgr_id=3341 - 16k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this So the e-mail above probably is OK and here's his web site: Good luck. Ian, K6SDE -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com [mailto:collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kemp Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:27 AM To: k4hca@alltel.net Cc: Collins ListServ; Boat Anchors List Subject: {Collins} Re: Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Harold: Here's another individual offering T-tubes. Might try him also. I think Don moved to Vegas (trying to recollect the thread...) but he's still around and will make the audio amp tube. http://www.w6bn.com/ttubes.asp Bob wa0vrc Harold Hairston wrote: > Several weeks ago, we were discussing a solution for the 6BF5 Heat > Problem in S-Line equipment. One of the solutions offered was a Solid > State replacement sold by one Don Kang. The E-mail address offered for > Don was donkang@ieee.org . I have not had any > success reaching Don at this address. > > Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, KC6OWH, in Los Angeles > but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to contact this person or > have a valid E-mail address. > > '73, > > Harold . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . 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John KE5RI **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) -------------------------------1207067176 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Most of the Navy MARS stuff I received= in the=20 70's is so old nobody would care!

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-------------------------------1207067176-- . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From wa3hsc@juno.com Tue Apr 1 12:41:54 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from outbound-mail.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.15]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 18CC7CCE31F for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail08.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.148]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABD9E3LSAW3CV8J for (sender ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:39:44 -0700 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: 03smJrOaceE03ITwglV4izKgWnbjkmVsMNY9SrmTuSJuOAOONnrADw== Received: (from wa3hsc@juno.com) by webmail08.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id NFP4R74E; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:39:22 PDT Received: from [167.102.133.216] by webmail08.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:38:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [167.102.133.216] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Dave Risik" Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:38:33 GMT To: k4hca@alltel.net Cc: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM, BOATANCHORS-request@LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV Subject: {Collins} Re: Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Message-Id: <20080401.123833.21800.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="--__JWM__J0412.66beS.00c9M" X-ContentStamp: 2:1:336441069 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.148|webmail08.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|wa3hsc@juno.com X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 18CC7CCE31F.15208 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: wa3hsc@juno.com X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27403 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: wa3hsc@juno.com Precedence: list Reply-to: wa3hsc@juno.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins ----__JWM__J0412.66beS.00c9M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I REPLACED MINE WITH A 6AQ5... ONLY REQUIRED A COULPE OF PARTS. BIG DIFF= ERENCE IN CURRANT DRAW. DAVE WA3HSC Please note: message attached ----__JWM__J0412.66beS.00c9M Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from mx12.dca.untd.com (mx12.dca.untd.com [10.171.44.42]) by maildeliver05.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABD9EGKQA7QKBQ2 for (sender ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 04:14:55 -0700 (PST) Received: from mailman.listserve.com (lists.aipac.org [209.249.124.21]) by mx12.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABD9EGKQASZBXT2 (sender ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 04:14:54 -0700 (PST) Received: from mailman.listserve.com (lr2.listserve.com [209.249.124.21]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A67CCCEAAD; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:13:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net (ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.157]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3206CCEB1E for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Harold ([75.117.17.90]) by ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20080401111052.SIJV20033.ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net@Harold>; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c893e9$0bc56cd0$01fea8c0@Harold> From: "Harold Hairston" To: "Collins ListServ" , "Boat Anchors List" Subject: {Collins} Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:10:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net from [75.117.17.90] using ID k4hca@alltel.net at Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:10:52 -0500 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No, No X-archive-position: 27397 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: k4hca@alltel.net Precedence: list Reply-to: k4hca@alltel.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 0A67CCCEAAD.E8F31 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-SpamScore: ssss X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-ContentStamp: 3:4:2323676951 X-MAIL-INFO:49333fda4a6b6bf3ca176a3f8bf34f6b430f575f X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 209.249.124.21|lists.aipac.org|mailman.listserve.com|collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-UNTD-UBE:-1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several weeks ago, we were discussing a solution for the 6BF5 Heat = Problem in S-Line equipment. One of the solutions offered was a Solid = State replacement sold by one Don Kang. The E-mail address offered for = Don was donkang@ieee.org. I have not had any success reaching Don at = this address. Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, KC6OWH, in Los Angeles = but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to contact this person or = have a valid E-mail address. '73, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, = KC6OWH,=20 in Los Angeles but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to = contact this=20 person or have a valid E-mail address.

'73,

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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0-- ----__JWM__J0412.66beS.00c9M-- . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From wayne4@snet.net Tue Apr 1 13:02:04 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: collins@listserve.com Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from smtp123.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp123.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.96]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D3CECCECE8 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 72111 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2008 16:59:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MIMEOLE; b=C3NfrC32qRGd4KLKxW6eaf5VAgiXwjT+eNv1yg0gI11Y4+usifo9LSdMkUZ98uDT0M+o8fhnTBySdc7hnpws6uMnT5QMdjR/rigg/tmAweKJmVolpDhN7p9QXQLAGYXpqPTkZ8lKMNgZ+dWnQ/QDof8CltRNlahdnWYnEwNcfJQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO DELL3100) (wayne4@snet.net@64.252.43.10 with login) by smtp123.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2008 16:59:55 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VIdDDK8VM1kk58UncNvGSL.pkL6zSzcrNZwYxDEqT8Vt3SKWGalPeXLN1fL1YR8Tbs1oQX29oN_EFxYBVfJBzNOFy7Q2cpyhtcwG2NdhcIoOc1iUECtEJzV3voNj3Pne_Y6Qao4I0wqscK05krM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Jeff Wayne" To: , Subject: {Collins} Re: Powerbright line voltage stabilizer Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:59:55 -0400 Message-ID: <00df01c89419$d4503a60$4001a8c0@DELL3100> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <53D4E4113FB29246BD4754F93437D41B24FF7F@s2k3cofmail01.fullerton.gov> Thread-Index: AciTacB4JsTla8MoSn+w+y0a2qX41QAARowgAAjMebAAIuBi8A== X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 5D3CECCECE8.5B99D X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: wayne4@snet.net X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27404 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: wayne4@snet.net Precedence: list Reply-to: wayne4@snet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins The auto voltage stabilizer is a model SVC-2000. Plugged into 120 VAC, it will regulate and put out 120 and 240 VAC from front panel outlets. There are larger versions with more wattage available as well. -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com [mailto:collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com] On Behalf Of Chris Meyer Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:26 PM To: collins@listserve.com Subject: {Collins} Powerbright line voltage stabilizer What was the model number of this unit? I found powerbright on line but could not figure out which product is being used... Chris, KI6EQW -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com [mailto:collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Wayne Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:10 PM To: k5gcw@sbcglobal.net; k4hca@alltel.net Cc: dgsvetan@rockwellcollins.com; collins@listserve.com Subject: {Collins} Re: 572-B for 30L-1 I purchased a PowerBright 2 kw line voltage stabilizer. It is fully metered and I have it adjusted to 115 VAC output. I think that it cost me about $120 online. I have my 32S-3 and 75S-3B powered through it. I also added a surge protector to the output, but I do not think that it is necessary. Jeff, K1YLV -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com [mailto:collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com] On Behalf Of Bill Scurlock Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:59 PM To: k4hca@alltel.net Cc: dgsvetan@rockwellcollins.com; collins@listserve.com Subject: {Collins} Re: 572-B for 30L-1 Harold, Dale's comments sound valid to me, but I would add an additional thought for you to consider. The actual problem you are facing is the high line voltage. Dale said he has that situation, and I do also. I have solved that problem with all my older vintage equipment by using an old filament transformer connected in a "bucking" connection to lower the line voltage to the 114 - 115 volt level which allows all the older equipment to operate at it's design voltages at all points in the circuit. I have used this approach with my KWS-1, 75A-4, 30L-1, and other older equipment. It's not just the HV, it's also the filament and all other voltages in the radio that are affected. High filament voltage will severly shorten a tube's life. Just another approach for you to consider. Have fun. 73, Bill, K5GCW ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "Collins List" ; Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: {Collins} Re: 572-B for 30L-1 > Harold, > > Back when the 30L-1 was designed, the 811As were a good choice. However, > like so many other things, operating conditions have changed over the > years. In particular, the applied AC power line voltage. I don't know > the story at your QTH, but my normal line voltage in the shack is 122 to > 124 volts. That produces a standby plate voltage of just about 2000, as > read on the panel meter. > > If you go and look up the ratings for 811As, the max plate voltage is > 1750, if I recall correctly. (I have in front of me a 1990 "ARRL > Handbook", and it lists the max 811A plate voltage at only 1500 V! I > believe that to be a bit low.) The max plate voltage rating for a 572B is > 2750 volts. Sit down and grind the numbers. In my book, the ratio of > 115V (the design input) to 122V (what I actually have) should be the same > as the ratio of 1800 V (what the schematic lists for B+) to a new voltage. > That new voltage calculates out to about 1910 VDC, which given the > accuracy of the analog meter and change of multiplier resistor values over > time, agrees very well with the "just about" 2000V reading I get on the > meter of my 30L-1. > > You are absolutely correct about not getting any extra output power from > the amp with 572Bs, but when the present 811As get a little weak in the > knees, you really might want to consider the 572Bs for "peace of mind" > replacement. Considering the age of original 811As that might still be > running in some of the 30L-1 amps that are out there, I must say that the > quality of the vacuum pulled on them at time of manufacture was very good, > as are the quality of the seals and getters. However, facts are that > these bottles are not getting any younger by the day. As they age, a few > more gas molecules are bound to float around inside the envelope. Get > enough of those and you might have a nice light show sometime. > > I am not sure what you mean, Harold, when you suggest buying a "heavy duty > set of matched 811As" in you rpost below. I always thought that 572Bs > WERE heavy duty 811As. I am not aware of an 811B, for example, that is > any better than an 811A. I have never seen 811-series bottles with thick > carbon plates, like the 572Bs have. > > I am no stranger to "pushing" final amp devices a bit to get whatever out > of them. In fact, when I got my 30L-1 about 18 months ago, I would have > left in the unmatched set of 811As that were working just fine, but one of > them was an oddball bottle made in the UK and having the internal tube > structure rotated 90 degrees from that of the RCA design. Thus, that one > bottle has its plate in the dreaded horizontal plane. I did not have any > 811As on the shelf, but I did have a set of NOS, NIB, Cetron 572Bs. End > of story. I am not sorry I made the change. > > 73, Dale > WA9ENA > > > > > > "Harold Hairston" > Sent by: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com > 03/29/2008 06:27 AM > Please respond to > k4hca@alltel.net > > > To > , "Collins List" > cc > > Subject > {Collins} Re: 572-B for 30L-1 > > > > > > > Steve; > > Every new 30L1 owner asks that same question sooner or later----usually > sooner. Can it be done? Absolutely. > > First question that begs an answer is, "Why would you want to switch"? > You > can not run any more power with the 572B's. The 30L-1 Power Supply > Components simply won't support it. The 572B's cost more and there is > little > evidence that they last that much longer than the 811"s. > > If Art Collins had thot that the 572B's were better, he would have > designed > the 30L-1 accordingly. Forget the idea of switching to the 572B's and > invest > those bucks in a heavy duty set of matched 811A's and enjoy your 30L-1. > > Harold > > > . > SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! > http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- > . > NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific > SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central > 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) > > > . > SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! > http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- > . > NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific > SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central > 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From k0occ@comcast.net Tue Apr 1 14:11:36 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: collins@listserve.com Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9984CCDF19 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8J0W1Z00S0ldTLk5301600; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:07:26 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter02.comcast.net ([204.127.197.112]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8J8k1Z0082RzDBg3Q00000; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:08:45 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IK9KtcrydBEA:10 a=tHgI/uHRDqO0QvFiHSTQZQ==:17 a=ijuLPC8DYw_Bo4EYb34A:9 a=W7hUTnqNk_paZrBBl6p9xs9vhiEA:4 a=B0cvAcWxpcAA:10 a=birkmQ2h4YEA:10 a=o8auRceG1_GiKmMb3vIA:9 a=jZyghsCi6PRH_i63OlQA:7 a=t9Wm-F5ZNnc3rsgawRZltyDemAIA:4 a=OHD_LnfE-60A:10 a=_KtGf5bnNxAA:10 a=mxHAoywTC_wA:10 a=ZrMMMnaxNC4A:10 a=iYlkOlhu7C0A:10 Received: from [67.166.248.32] by rmailcenter02.comcast.net; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:08:43 +0000 From: k0occ@comcast.net To: wa3hsc@juno.com, k4hca@alltel.net Cc: "Dave Risik" , COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM, BOATANCHORS-request@LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV Subject: {Collins} Re: Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:08:43 +0000 Message-Id: <040120081808.12780.47F27A2B00079162000031EC22007507440C0C01CF05@comcast.net> X-Authenticated-Sender: azBvY2NAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12780_1207073323_0" X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: B9984CCDF19.ABFEA X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: k0occ@comcast.net X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27405 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: k0occ@comcast.net Precedence: list Reply-to: k0occ@comcast.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12780_1207073323_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is this mod written up anywhere? tnx & 73 -- Ernie, k0occ Atlanta, GA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dave Risik" > I REPLACED MINE WITH A 6AQ5... ONLY REQUIRED A COULPE OF PARTS. BIG DIFFERENCE > IN CURRANT DRAW. > > DAVE WA3HSC > > Please note: message attached > > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12780_1207073323_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Dave Risik" To: k4hca@alltel.net Cc: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM, BOATANCHORS-request@LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV Subject: {Collins} Re: Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:44:35 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12780_1207073323_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12780_1207073323_1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from mx12.dca.untd.com (mx12.dca.untd.com [10.171.44.42]) by maildeliver05.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABD9EGKQA7QKBQ2 for (sender ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 04:14:55 -0700 (PST) Received: from mailman.listserve.com (lists.aipac.org [209.249.124.21]) by mx12.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABD9EGKQASZBXT2 (sender ); Tue, 1 Apr 2008 04:14:54 -0700 (PST) Received: from mailman.listserve.com (lr2.listserve.com [209.249.124.21]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A67CCCEAAD; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:13:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: COLLINS@LISTSERVE.COM Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net (ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.157]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3206CCEB1E for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Harold ([75.117.17.90]) by ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20080401111052.SIJV20033.ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net@Harold>; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c893e9$0bc56cd0$01fea8c0@Harold> From: "Harold Hairston" To: "Collins ListServ" , "Boat Anchors List" Subject: {Collins} Replacement For 6BF5 In S-Line Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 07:10:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net from [75.117.17.90] using ID k4hca@alltel.net at Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:10:52 -0500 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No, No X-archive-position: 27397 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: k4hca@alltel.net Precedence: list Reply-to: k4hca@alltel.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 0A67CCCEAAD.E8F31 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-SpamScore: ssss X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-ContentStamp: 3:4:2323676951 X-MAIL-INFO:49333fda4a6b6bf3ca176a3f8bf34f6b430f575f X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 209.249.124.21|lists.aipac.org|mailman.listserve.com|collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-UNTD-UBE:-1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several weeks ago, we were discussing a solution for the 6BF5 Heat = Problem in S-Line equipment. One of the solutions offered was a Solid = State replacement sold by one Don Kang. The E-mail address offered for = Don was donkang@ieee.org. I have not had any success reaching Don at = this address. Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, KC6OWH, in Los Angeles = but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to contact this person or = have a valid E-mail address. '73, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Doing a QRZ Name Search, I fiind a Donald Kang, = KC6OWH,=20 in Los Angeles but no E-mail address. Has anyone been able to = contact this=20 person or have a valid E-mail address.

'73,

Harold

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C893C7.84546EC0-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12780_1207073323_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_12780_1207073323_0-- . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From n4lg@qx.net Tue Apr 1 14:20:14 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: collins@listserve.com Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from author.QX.Net (unknown [64.191.128.27]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BE6CCE2F3 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bcotterwin.qx.net (bcotter1ux.net.uky.edu [128.163.139.91]) by author.QX.Net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.654.0) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:16:37 -0400 X-Modus-BlackList: n4lg@qx.net=OK X-Modus-Audit: FALSE;0;0;22342145071667444 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:16:37 -0400 To: ,r-390@mailman.qth.net From: Bill Cotter Subject: {Collins} WANTED: Curry Longwave Filter for Collins R-390A Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20080401181642.85BE6CCE2F3@mailman.listserve.com> X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 85BE6CCE2F3.B51D6 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: n4lg@qx.net X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27406 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: n4lg@qx.net Precedence: list Reply-to: n4lg@qx.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins I would like to buy a 6kHz Curry Longwave Filter for Collins R-390A if anyone out there has one available. State new/used, and price plus shipping. Please reply privately to my e-mail address Thanks es 73 - Bill N4LG . SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY ! http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted- . NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 MHz-2000 Pacific SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 Central 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT) From w5mc@austin.rr.com Tue Apr 1 14:57:23 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list collins); Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: collins@listserve.com Delivered-To: collins@listserve.com Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mailman.listserve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FC0CCE4C3 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macoffice ([72.177.109.238]) by hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080401185341.SSTA14774.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@macoffice>; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:53:41 +0000 Message-ID: <0a3801c89429$6c06bcd0$7e01a8c0@macoffice> From: "Mac McCullough" To: Cc: , , "CCA Reflector" References: <033120081658.17426.47F1183D0006626700004412219791336303010CD2079C080C03BF03970A9D9D019B@mchsi.com> <47F11E05.3070604@insightbb.com> <022a01c8938c$92ff79a0$c8d5fea9@LDIOffice> <14e1b4a70803311816l6b75a256qbcae5c11115e25bf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: {Collins} Re: Broken link Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:51:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A35_01C893FF.82D156C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: C4FC0CCE4C3.74FDB X-ListServe.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ListServe.com-MailScanner-From: w5mc@austin.rr.com X-Spam-Status: No X-archive-position: 27407 Sender: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com Errors-to: collins-bounce@mailman.listserve.com X-original-sender: w5mc@austin.rr.com Precedence: list Reply-to: w5mc@austin.rr.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: <> List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: collins This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A35_01C893FF.82D156C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All CCA Reflector readers, this broken link is proving to be a thing or = situation that has been building for some time, it is generally believed = to have been started as a corruption point by an AOL user, who had no = clue it was eventually going to effect this degree of service... it = does not matter really how it started, it was not intentional, but the = bigger point, it has piled up a long list of what I am learning is = called loop file miss-direct, every day I have thought would be the day = this lost chain to the archives would be reestablished , not just yet, = but I do believe it is getting closer.. =20 what was that ole thing TV stations used to announce, do not adjust ur = set, we are the problem, well our providers are sorting out the cause, = and we will see this thru to getting repaired, it's just a giant PIA = right now...=20 I will cheerfully report when this is completed, thank you and please = continue using the reflector .. mac/mc w5mc CCA Board Member and = reflector moderator .. =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brian Sokol=20 To: wcarns@austin.rr.com=20 Cc: w9hak@insightbb.com ; torreym@mchsi.com ; CCA Reflector=20 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: {Collins} Re: Broken link For further clarification: There appears to be something wrong with the listserve itself. = Searching Google for other groups' archives, such as "boating" with this = link = http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&safe=3Doff&rls=3DGGLG%2CGGLG%3A2007-= 52%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=3Dboating+site%3Amailman.listserve.com works and = clicking on the resultant Google search results works. However, when doing the same via Google for "collins" = http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&safe=3Doff&rls=3DGGLG%2CGGLG%3A2007-= 52%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=3Dcollins+site%3Amailman.listserve.com there are many = search results but clicking on any link returns a 404 (Page Not Found) = error. Mac has been notified and I believe he has been working with the folks = at Listserve to resolve the issue. 73, Brian =20 On 3/31/08, Bill Carns wrote:=20 The link on the website to the reflector archives is down, but they = are working on it. Bill N7OTQ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: w9hak=20 To: torreym@mchsi.com ; CCA Reflector=20 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: {Collins} Re: Broken link =20 torreym@mchsi.com wrote:=20 Which link is broken Smith? I continue to receive emails from = the reflector and the collinsradio,org web site is functioning normally. 73 Torrey N9PY -------------- Original message from w9hak = : --------------=20 > Has anyone heard when the CCA reflector will be available? = Still a dead=20 > link from here.=20 >=20 > Smith Bradford=20 > W9HAK=20 > .=20 > SHARE THE FUN: JOIN THE COLLINS COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION TODAY = !=20 > http://www.collinsradio.org/membership/ -paypal accepted-=20 > .=20 > NETS: Tues & Thur: 3.805 MHz-2000 Central + Fri: 3.895 = MHz-2000 Pacific=20 > SUNDAYS: 14.263 MHz-2000 UTC + AM Net: 29.050 MHz-1200 = Central=20 > 1st Wednesday AM Net 3.880 MHz-2000 local (ET, CT, MT, PT)=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1352 - Release Date: = 3/31/2008 10:13 AM In the past you could visit the Collins reflector archives. There the = archives can be searched with a built in search engine. It's very handy = when trying to get specific information on Collins radio. If you go to = the Collins Collectors Association web page you will find a link to the = above mentioned archives. If you click on it, at least from here, it = will be a dead link. It's been that way for several weeks. Smith W9HAK --=20 http://MyHamShack.com/KA9SRK/ http://ShowMyBoat.com/Camelot/=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1350 - Release Date: = 3/30/2008 12:32 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0A35_01C893FF.82D156C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All CCA Reflector readers, this = broken link=20 is proving to be a thing or situation that has been building for some = time, it=20 is generally believed to have been started as a corruption point by an = AOL=20 user, who had no clue it was eventually going to effect this = degree of=20 service... it does not matter really how it started, it was = not=20 intentional, but the bigger point, it has piled up a long list of what I = am=20 learning is called loop file miss-direct, every day I have thought would = be the=20 day this lost chain to the archives would be reestablished , not = just=20 yet, but I do believe it is getting = closer..

what was that ole thing TV stations = used to=20 announce, do not adjust ur set, we are the problem, = well our=20 providers are sorting out the cause, and we will see this thru to = getting=20 repaired, it's just a giant PIA right now...

I will cheerfully report when this is=20 completed, thank you and please continue using the reflector = .. =20 mac/mc w5mc CCA Board Member and reflector moderator = .. =20

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Brian = Sokol=20