Re: {Collins} 75A-4 touch up paint.

No matter what the exact color of the paint was when new, over the years, various environmental factors cause the paint to fade.  How much fading depends on all sorts of factors including exposure to the sun, air quality, etc.

The best place to determine the original color is somewhere, on the inside, where the cabinet has been in contact with the chassis.  If no such place can be found, then the next best place is between the underside of the door, in the top of the cabinet, where it meets the "lip".  With the 75A-4, another place is the overlap between the various panels that make up the cabinet.

Collins Radio was among the better manufacturers where color control of the paint was involved.  However, with any paint color, there can be very slight differences between "batches".  Over the years, I have had a number of "boat anchor" cabinet colors "matched" at my local Sherwin-Williams store and the tint, etc., has always been "spot on" to the sample brought for the matching process.  The formulas for these paints can be found at the following URL:

Although the formulas were derived by Sherwin-Williams, any good paint store should be able to use them and create a satisfactory paint.  However, I do not trust home improvement stores like Home Depot or Lowe's to get the paint mixed properly.  Just go to a stand-alone paint store and pay the extra dollar, or two, and get properly mixed paint.

Glen, K9STH 

    On Monday, May 20, 2019, 6:33:25 AM CDT, Charlie T via Collins <collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
 Yes, there are some drastic differences in what is called "St. James Grey".
(Maybe not as varied as Heathkit cabinet greenish gray though. HI)

I have personally seen at a "local ham's shack",  four original 270G-?
speakers that are very obviously NOT exactly the same as Jim says, in both
texture and color.

Add to that, the effects of sunlight over 60+ years which widens the gap
even further.
For example, this can easily be seen by removing a 75A-4's Bakelite
escutcheon and observing the different color under it.

That said, I have "restored" a nice, but dull finish, front panel with a
light overspray of Krylon Clear Gloss.
The panel of my "garbage can" 75A-2 that I paid all of $2 for is evidence of
that technique.

As to the depth of the wrinkle,  ideally, silk-screening should be over a
perfectly smooth finish, so the wrinkle depth must be relatively shallow,
otherwise the lettering would look awful.

73, Charlie k3ICH

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Subject: Re: {Collins} 75A-4 touch up paint.

I've found early A-Line radios to be much blacker, with less pronounced
wrinkles than later radios. I acquired an early 312A1 speaker console a few
years ago that seemed almost pure black. IMHO, the color on, e.g., my late
s/n 75A4, is much more attractive.
Jim w8zr

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> Wayne, incidentally I'm not sure that Art painted all his A4's with an
identical match...some a bit grayer and some a bit blacker.  If you find
that the case, contact me and I'll pass along what I do in a case like this.
> Buck
> W0LC
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